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[00:19:33] <Charon77> bschnei: thanks, I'll add to the docs as well with the warnings. What's the package signing key on this, and are you open to any help or if it's more like "provided as-is" situation?
[00:38:14] <bschnei> -any- packages are signed because those just come from Arch as is. Nothing else is signed. You really shouldn't trust my any more just because I can run gpg :)
[00:40:20] <bschnei> I do have a list of about 1000 packages that won't build for v8 but I have no idea what the reasons are. It could be benign check() failures, etc. At this point, I would really only use v8 packages if you don't have anything except a v8 device and you want to contribute. Life is generally a lot easier with a cloud VM
[00:50:47] <Charon77> Care to share the list? If it can be tracked maybe others can contribute directly on PKGBUILDS. I'd help making it pretty on gitlab or so if you want. I can try rebuilding, one package at a time, as long as it's not a heavy package like a browser or so
[00:51:12] <Charon77> just thinking of offloading the work
[01:07:51] <bschnei> I can but what you really need most of the time are the logs unless you have a build environment and can reproduce the issue...which...you kind of do to be able to confirm there is indeed an issue (and it's not just me/my environment) and then figure out how to fix :)
[01:08:32] <bschnei> Do you have a build environment? We don't currently have any documentation of how to set up one up
[01:14:54] <bschnei> Unless it's infeasible, I really would encourage those who want to do package work (i.e. figure out why they don't build) to set up a cloud VM. I have a small one on Hetzner which is what we started with before solskogen and drzee took things to another level. drzee has docs on how to get set up on AWS.
[01:17:27] <bschnei> Most ARM devices are intentionally low power. It's really not an enjoyable experience to use them for compilation.
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[01:57:23] <Charon77> bschnei I don't have a build environment, If there's a VM I could work on that'd be great, since I'm definitely very new I'd appreciate any suggestions. Right now I'm trying to use bens.haus starting from extra. chromium works so that's a good sign :-)
[02:43:16] <fermino> Has anyone tried userspace emulation (lxc with qemu+binfmt)? I've been eyeing it for a while (won't be fast, but it sure will be interesting)
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[06:15:13] <solskogen|M> fermino: Yes. And it's about 100x slower, if not even more.
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[06:45:24] <Charon77> I tried using bschnei's build. restarted, I was shocked that I don't have wifi on my wifi-only tablet that I'm using. Turns out the linux-firmware files are .zst and I could just uncompress them with `zstd` which fortunately works.
[06:47:47] <solskogen|M> Did you use his kernel or your own?
[06:49:26] <solskogen|M> if you roll your own you need CONFIG_FW_LOADER_COMPRESS_ZSTD=y
[06:52:36] <Charon77> my own kernel, personal reasons prevent me from easily changing the kernel now (chromebook, depthcharge stuffs, worrying of display not initializing). `zstd -f -d **/*.zst` does the trick for now
[06:53:20] <Charon77> But thanks, I'll keep that in mind!
[06:53:49] <Charon77> apart from that, I'm quite surprised that everything just works
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[08:49:47] <linkmauve> bschnei, I have an Oracle Clown VM, but it isn’t much faster than my rk3588 board, and that’s with thermal throttling which I really should fix at some point.
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[09:04:30] <solskogen|M> That a new word for cloud I've never heard before ✌️
[09:08:51] <linkmauve> I had a Firefox extension to replace all occurences of “Cloud” with “Clown” and it made the web much more pleasant to read. :)
[09:09:06] <linkmauve> I should do the same for AI nowadays.
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[09:23:50] <Charon77> Any interesting package I could try running now that I'm on v8? chromium works, so that's that
[09:24:05] * phantomas suggest using SlopMaker5000™ as a replacement for LLMs/GenAI
[09:24:46] <solskogen|M> Use whatever you wish. Use all your normal applications and see if they work as intended
[09:26:51] <phantomas> linkmauve: I got myself a rock5b+ to build some packages for other devices. Initial tests with active cooling and the metal enclosure are promising :)
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[09:41:29] <linkmauve> The four Cortex-A76 are a beast, yeah!
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[10:15:02] <solskogen|M> "Anyway, these types of "FTBFS" reports are of questionable value" - this was a comment https://gitlab.archlinux.org - is that true?
[10:15:04] <phrik> Title: kodi fails to build against the latest giflib update (#17) · Issues · Arch Linux / Packaging / Packages / kodi · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
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[12:51:13] <bschnei> Charton77: what would be helpful is figuring out if you can adopt the mainline kernel for your device. Device support is an area we are looking for help. You should indeed figure out the recovery process when your display doesn't work. In the interim, you should change the config solskogen noted otherwise you'll have that problem with every update to linux-firmware.
[12:57:26] <bschnei> linkmauve: good to know! I was thinking of older v8 devices when I made my comment. They are totally usable if you aren't tackling a bigger package.
[13:03:51] <Charon77> recovery process: I'm in an away-from-home-lab setup for the time being. If my display doesn't work I pretty much need a SuzyQable which exposes serial port through USB. I've tried upstream linux and had issue in mainline (stable works). Maintainer said it should've been fixed. I'll let you know once I can go back to trying it out, but it might take some time.
[14:48:03] <linkmauve> There we go, https://gitlab.archlinux.org
[14:48:04] <phrik> Title: config.aarch64: Enable CONFIG_VIDEO_HANTRO (!8) · Merge requests · Benjamin Schneider / linux · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
[14:48:32] <linkmauve> I’ll test more later, but this was one of the obvious missing ones.
[14:53:42] <bschnei> ty!
[14:55:52] <linkmauve> !9 too.
[14:55:52] <phrik> linkmauve: You might be able to bribe me for an answer…
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[21:05:26] <fermino> Life's beautiful when UART is this accessible :) https://fotos.olaiz.net
[21:06:56] <fermino> (I'm just really happy I didn't have to disassemble the whole thing
[21:43:08] <fermino> https://fotos.olaiz.net
[21:43:24] <fermino> Not by best, not my worst
[21:44:12] <linkmauve> Cloudflare says I’m blocked from your website, and tells me to tell you “Cloudflare Ray ID: 9ed65de80b2e6fdb”.
[21:46:09] <fermino> Woo, I did forget I have everything except argentina blocked; try https://imgur.com
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